This card is sooo good in William Yorick, especially the combo Bandages + Beat Cop. In recent game I played Beat Cop round 2 and then Bandages. The Beat Cop stayed in play whole game (18 rounds) and dealt around 6-7 damage...Killer! You deal damage to Beat Cop, heal with Bandages, enemy gets damaged. When used up, Bandages discards itself and Yorick plays it back after killing another enemy to keep on damaging with Beat Cop...

SergSel · 168
For the Yorick + Bandages + Beat Cop combo, what it does is to save you 2r per recursion of Beat Cop. Pretty good for econ, although if you're already running say Rite of Sanctification you won't need it. — suika · 8176
Interestingly, I ran exactly Blessed Yorcik in the campaign and Rite was good, but the problem was sometime to get my bless generation cards together with it. Bandages also helps heal damage from other investigators and Yorick himself and not needing to play Beat Cop from his ability lets you play something else, like in my case Favor of the Sun or Rite of Sanctification or Keepsake. I managed to pull of the combo in about 4 out of 8 scenarios (2 Beat cops and 1 bandages in the deck) — SergSel · 168
In the Thick of It

This just opened up the game!

Holy moly!

Mystics can now start with Blood Pact! Agnes Baker, Akachi Onyele, Dexter Drake.

From now on every investigator that can and would take Charon's Obol, should take this card! It's a dangerous endeavour but it's fun and totally worth it in my eyes. And more importantly:

  1. Sefina Rousseau starts with Suggestion
  2. Tony Morgan starts with Marksmanship (To more easily deal with his weakness)
  3. "Skids" O'Toole starts with Lockpicks
  4. "Skids" O'Toole starts with Cat Burglar
  5. Wendy Adams starts with Try and Try Again.

Great fit without Charon's Obol:

  1. 40 card Mandy Thompson starts with Segment of Onyx, Easy Mark and Surprising Find!.
  2. Patrice Hathaway starts with Mind's Eye and Miss Doyle (I would use Short Supply as well :))
  3. Leo Anderson starts with Charisma
  4. Carolyn Fern just doesn't mind the horror :) That helps her getting a faster Stick to the Plan, or start with Ancient Stone to get a faster Ancient Stone (Thanks for the tip, @MrGoldbee)
  5. "Ashcan" Pete gets to start with 2 mental trauma. That allows him to use desparate skills right away. And this is the one gator who would now start with 2xInspiring Presence, and Newspaper and Yaotl!

Basically, "Ashcan" Pete got the most out of this permanent!

This is such a great tempo bust to the upper mentioned characters. I think, In the Thick of It has become my favourite card out the newest expansion just by existing!

Thank you, the design team, at FFG.

ambiryan13 · 131
Carolyn should take Ancient Stone (1). — MrGoldbee · 1148
Yep, good one! Thanks for the tip — ambiryan13 · 131
Toe to Toe

How does this work with swarming enemies? Let's say Daniela is facing a swarming 2 enemy (that's 3 enemies total), can she chooses just one of them to attack her to play this card, or the 3 of them?

Thanks in advance

Balin · 27
x) Each swarm card attacks separately when enemies attack DURING THE ENEMY PHASE. x) Each swarm card can be attacked or dealt damage separately, but the host enemy cannot be defeated while it still has swarm cards underneath it. x) The host enemy and all of its swarm cards move, engage, and exhaust as a single entity. => So, no. A swarm enemy does not generally attack as a single entry. It's always usefull reading the keyword in the Rules Reference to clear this questions. — Susumu · 165
Do you mean it's just one enemy attack in this case, or three attacks total? I didn't fully understand your answer, sorry, English is not my first language — Balin · 27
Of course, this does not mean, that you will not get an AoO from each swarm card, should you trigger it. But that's because each swarm card count as a single enemy. You won't get an attack from other enemies, you are engaged with, from this card. Just the one, you are attacking. And you can even put extra damage on other swarm cards, without them having attack you, hence the swarm keyword allows that. — Susumu · 165
Ok, now I got it. Thanks! — Balin · 27
Swarm enemies attack each of there own. If the last paragraph I quoted would be "The host enemy and all of its swarm cards move, engage, ATTACK and exhaust as a single entity", this would be different. — Susumu · 165
Hey, if each swarm card attacks in enemy phase, so Daniela can hit each swarm and host with her ablility? Am I right? — Pawiu14 · 9
Yup — MrGoldbee · 1148
Cryptic Grimoire

What were they thinking.

It needs to proc once to break even in actions, and 3 times to break even in resources in the ideal operating environment. That's placing and subsequently pulling at least 6 curses (and not cancelling them) AFTER the tome has been played, each of which on a subset of Insight events. All that to break even INSIDE a scenario... not counting the prerequisite quest or the 8xp playset. And it has to compete in the hand slot.


This is a totally viable card in a curse build, really not sure what your issue with it is. The other one, sure, pretty bad. This one's solid, though. — SSW · 148
I don't think the effect is bad per-say either. The main issue with this card is that the curse package is far more about 'playing tiny curse cards for huge benefits' than 'actively seek out curses. — dezzmont · 69
This is a good thing by the way: Curses should be far more about the benefits of the cards that generate curses, because a deck that wants to flood the bag with curses proactively for its own sake is almost 'meta-parastic.' Not only is it a strategy that only works with a very specific pool of cards, but it forces every other player at the table into that strategy. So it is sorta good that the seeker curse packages faceplanted hard. But if a 'care about curse' strategy ever takes off for real, this would be a good card in it, despite the fact a lot of insights already are fast. This is, in theory, limitless free actions and your friends can potentially proc it VERY fast. — dezzmont · 69
I have to agree with MrButtermancer here (is there a Ms. Buttermancer?). You're spending a card, a hand slot, a play action, 3 resources and 4 Xp on something that will maybe, on a good day (read: bad day) save you , I dunno, 5 play actions and 5 resources? It's not a great trade. — olahren · 1517
A good question to ask is 'How many times does this need to trigger for me to be happy with it?' 5 actually sounds quite nice, that is effectively 10 whole actions (if we evaluate the non-action benefits of making an action fast as offsetting the fact a resource isn't quite worth an action). Action compression especially is fairly useful in Seeker, so being able to use this to clear out a location even earlier with a fast play of one of the 'Investigate with a benefit' insights. But 5 triggers is a huge ask, it requires you to have 5 relevant insights that will meaningfully help you in hand when you need them, and 5 seperate curse draws after this is in play, which is extremely difficult to do in a timely manner. In that specific instance, your likely looking to not so much flood the bag as keep a steady stream: at 4-5 tokens you will expect a curse 1 in 4 draws, meaning you will get maybe a charge per turn if you can keep that level of curseness up. But that also means your failing around 40% more tests than you 'should,' or need to pass tests by 2 more to get the same expected result (because curse math is weird and trying to just pass by the expected average value of the curse doesn't actually help offset the curse that much). That means your looking at 10% of your tests failing specifically of those 4 curses, which means whatever you do with those insights better be worth it! — dezzmont · 69
Said math is on standard. Curses are more predictable (But affect more tokens) on easy, and get more volatile on harder modes (Because the wider distribution of results means the curse is a difference maker on fewer results, and partially offsetting the curse does more), and assuming one curse pull (The odds of getting two on a 15 token bag with 4 curses is like some odd 3%, so like around 1in 30 pulls). — dezzmont · 69
Every time I try to build around this, I ended up taking Farsight instead. — suika · 8176
Professor William Webb

Professor Webb here is a strange beast. He's a lesser version of Scavenging and a different version of In the Know rolled into one ally. I say lesser version, because Scavenging proper doesn't use secrets and will net you a clue as well. And In the Know can target any location, not only connecting ones.

Webb has a benefit, however. His ability is a to a successful investigation at your location, so you can decide if you want to use his ability after you've succeeded at the test. So, you'll never waste a secret, and you can investigate at locations with no clues and still trigger his ability.

So, what can Webb be used for?

  • 1a) Webb can serve as a Scavenging for those without access to assets. Now, Webb only has three Secrets to burn, so he's less useful than the limitless Scavenging. Scavenging does have the if succeed by two clause but will get you both a clue AND the item. But while Webb is inferior, he will return three items to your hand and if those items are juicy enough (The Necronomicon, Grotesque Statue Key of Ys) he might be worth your time.

  • 1b) Any investigator whose deck is built around Scavenging can use Webb as a extra copy. But anyone with access to Scavenging also has access to Short Supply and Resourceful so a backup might not be needed.

  • 2) Webb can pick up clues from connecting locations rather than the one you just investigated. This can be useful, but it's quite conditional. You need to have a revealed location next to you, with a clue that you want to pick up. And with only three Secrets to Webb's name, it's not like you can use this ability willy-nilly.

  • 3) Webb can be a swiss knife ally for an investigator who both benefit from the Scavenging ability and the ability to find clues at connection locations.

Let's look at candidates for the different user cases:

  • 1) Scavenging Webb: Anyone who plans to recycle high value items such as The Necronomicon and Key of Ys can certainly use Webb. Right now that archtype belongs to seekers with access to Survivor cards (aka Minh Thi Phan), but you might want to try a Harvey Walters+The Necronomicon-build with Magnifying Glass glass to discard emtpy tomes and then get them back up again with Webb. The problem here is that seekers already have lots of ways to play with tomes, so Webb seems like a detour. But it's still my favorite combo.

  • 2) In the Know-Webb: Webb can help shore up up the "seeking from afar" archtype along with Pocket Telescope and In the Know. You'll need some way to generate secrets, but it's doable. The prime candidate is Luke Robinson, who can use Webb to investigate from the safety of his 1 Shroud Dream-Gate.

  • 3) Swiss-knife-Webb: Again, late game Luke with some sort of intellect buff and Grotesque Statues, and probably Charisma, Whitton Greene and a way to replace lost secrets that might go to Webb if needed.

Professor Webb has a level 2 version as well. The difference is +1 Sanity, a pip and that you'll always activate both his abilities. so he's a Scavenging without the succeed by 2 clause that can find clues either on your location or a connecting location. It's neat but in my humble opinion, triggering both isn't worth 2 xp.

Conclusion: Seekers and survivors both have great awesome allies that's awesome by themselves. Webb is not one of them. He has no stat buffs and he needs to be part of some sort of combo. I have listed a few combos above but ally slots are valuable, and Professor Webb seems mediocre at best.

What do you think? Is Webb worth it because he has two abilities and thus easy to get milage out of? Or is he simply not good enough at what he does?

olahren · 1517
2xp to remove "don't discover clues" is probably under costed for the scavenging effect, I honestly think level 0 Webb is close to unplayable because of that line of text. (you have to get something back worth wasting a successful investigate action, an ally slot, and a secret, so better find something HUGE) — Zerogrim · 224
I think even the 0xp version is useful if you plan to scavenge some item after the first or second scenario. Combine him with the archeologie funding, the twin and his colleague Dr. Christopher. — Tharzax · 1