Forced Learning Roland (5 XP, Taboo 2021-06-28)

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Ruduen · 905

Forced Learning Roland

Roland Chews through his Deck

Primary Roles: Monster Fighter, Clue Gatherer

This was originally based on the deck here. However, after someone pointed out that BtB Roland received 5 Bonus XP to work with, I was able to clean up the unnecessary Trauma on this character, and use that to give the build a little more consistency right from the start. This write-up has the updated information available.

From the moment I saw Forced Learning, I was curious about who would be the best investigator for it. There were numerous common options, but it was tricky trying to pin down who would have the right combination of effects to take advantage of it. My musings lead to wondering who could best use the Improvised set of cards, and further investigation lead to BtB Roland, with reasonable , good , and the ability to boost the speeds of those cards on top. It also provided numerous other interesting options, and gave enough bonus XP to allow for easy gain without needing In the Thick of It. This helps enable a version of Roland which can do quite a lot, with 'setup' often actively being done through the discard, and a few tricks on top.

This is the result of taking that core idea and pushing it through a few unusual options, including using the Versatile package to add a Deck Creation card - in this case, the Forced Learning which would be the key to the deck concept, and which would make Versatile's extra cards even less notable than normal.

Roland doesn't have the bursts of power that some builds have, but has an incredible amount of flexibility and consistency. He can safely sneak in numerous bonus actions through Directive (Red Tape), and turn unlikely investigations into successes with Directive (Due Diligence), making up for a slightly weaker statline through the sheer number of actions he's able to take.

I'm halfway through taking the deck through Dunwich on Normal difficulty in a solo game, so it feels reasonably solid (with the exception of Stargazing - don't use Stargazing on solo). With that in mind, I think it's a reasonably powerful and flexible deck.

Strategy

Mulligan Strategy

General Strategy

Use whatever your hand allows. In general, Forced Learning means your effective cycling power is incredibly high. You'll want to keep one weapon out at all times if possible, though if you find the upgraded version of Roland's .38 Special, you're probably set for a long while. If you ever find Improvised Weapon, Winging It, or your first copy of Fortuitous Discovery, congratulations - you've got a turn where it's easy to decide what to toss. If not, toss what you think you're not going to need or can't afford to play in the near future. In general, you'll want to have one or two investigation options and one or two fight options available at all times - either in your hand slots, or as cards that you can quickly play. And yes, toss Delve Too Deep if it's too early on. You probably won't draw through your entire deck, but this isn't a deck that can hold on to unnecessary cards.

In general, squeeze whatever value you can out of Directive (Red Tape). This often means squeezing a little bit more out of a random Burning the Midnight Oil for a couple of resources and occasional free clue, Deep Knowledge or Preposterous Sketches for some additional draw, or even using Stargazing because why not. If you happen to be engaged with something that you can reliably finish off, all the better - Directive (Due Diligence) will often turn a random Investigation from something you have no business of passing into something that you have a solid shot at, and being able to do so on with a Fast card means you can do so without worrying about taking an attack.

Need to fight? Take the safe shots you can with your weapon, and throw Overpower at whatever fights you need to. Remembering that after you've used up your two fights for the turn, Directive (Due Diligence) and Daring can both be used to set up strong evades and avoid the blows you and Guard Dog can't take.

Need to clue? You're unlikely to do all of the gathering in a larger game, but in smaller games, Drawn to the Flame can grab all of the clues you need from some locations, while Flashlight and Winging It can handle easier checks. Perception and Burning the Midnight Oil is there if you're trying to boost a later game Fortuitous Discovery, too.

If you're not quite sure what to do and you're not near the card cap, draw. This deck can end up going through cards very quickly if you need to boost something for commits, so having extra cards will usually be a good idea. Don't forget you can spread some of the wealth from Deep Knowledge if you're already close to the cap.

Deck Variations

Initial Build

Notable Inclusions

  • Fortuitous Discovery - One of the key cards that lead me toward BtB Roland for this. On its own, it's a fast investigate - not great, but solid. However, it also makes for easy discard fodder on the first instance, and a second/third instance of a fast investigate that can discover extra clues... Well, that's a lot more tempting.
  • Winging It - The second of the cards that lead me towards using BtB Roland for this. A free pitch that allows for a fast action investigate and a potential bonus clue? Great!
  • Improvised Weapon - Not as important as the above, but still worth consideration. In terms of raw power or consistency, this isn't as powerful, but discard fodder that becomes a fast +1 damage instance is nothing to scoff at, and it can receive support and cycle through with Overpower or Daring.
  • Toe to Toe - There aren't actually that many good fight events for Roland, who has 4 and no innate boosts. Sustaining his big fights and Improvised Weapon alone will likely take most of the commits you have. However, Toe to Toe can leverage that 9/8 health pool at Fast, with great consistency.
  • Guard Dog - Combines with Toe to Toe as one of the few testless damage options available, and goes well with the fact that you have some horror soak to speak of.
  • Act of Desperation, Emergency Cache - Resources tend to be a little tight for this build (though you can always toss or commit high cost cards if need be). However, this better facilitates Stick to the Plan when the time comes, since that is an effect that can add a huge consistency boost the moment you get it.
  • Delve Too Deep - Everybody likes bonus XP, right? If someone else can reliably end the game, play the first, then play the second as a Fast action! What could go wrong? (Everything. but that's not the point.)

1 XP Substitutions

2 XP is used to slot in Versatile for Forced Learning. So, the question remains, what do you want to do with that extra 3 XP? There are numerous good 1 XP options for Roland.

  • Machete/Brand of Cthugha - The consistent fight options. If your group's in heavy need of another combat option, these will be your best bets in getting multiple shots out. I've chosen to include these in the default deck as the most consistent long-term option, and since high-XP weapon upgrades aren't a priority for this deck.
  • Sweeping Kick - The other fight option. If you're having trouble in combat, Sweeping Kick is your best bet, allowing good damage and evade if appropriate. It also fits into Stick to the Plan, providing a very flexible and fast fight option at from the very start of the game.
  • Stirring Up Trouble - The clue option. If you want more clues, this has you covered - two testless clues as a fast action is a massive boon, and while the curses are inconvenient, the card more than has its place.
  • Stargazing - The oddball of note. If you're playing Solo, the consistency of Stargazing is lower. However, even if you're playing 2P, you're likely to hit The Stars Are Right before a nemesis deck reshuffle triggers, giving the team a notable boost. Under normal circumstances, sacrificing an action and card to preemptively stack the Encounter Deck would be a bit of an ask. However, here, the cost is more than bearable - there's a very good chance that you're going to have SOME turn where you've got nothing better to do with Directive (Red Tape). In those cases, Stargazing is well worth its weight, using up a spare resource to save a lot of pain and grant bonuses in the future.

Other Substitutions

  • Cryptic Writings - With Crack the Case. Both cover the same role of resource generation. In the end, this ended up usable enough with Directive (Red Tape), and its flexibility and two end up being more valuable, even knowing Roland won't often get an explicit Fast trigger.
  • Preposterous Sketches - With Glory. Both are conditional effects, but I find Preposterous Sketches to be an easier condition to meet, and Glory's main upside (being fast) being a much smaller selling point when you can only play two cards every turn. That being said, Glory's 2 may make it better if you need to do more clue gathering on occasions.
  • Working a Hunch/Scene of the Crime: Both of these are very powerful clue effects with higher resource costs. Working a Hunch remains in through the virtue of also being two tokens, and sometimes being a second fast play. Just remember that the "First Action" restriction means there's no speeding it up, so you'll want to be careful about sequencing when using it.

Notable Exclusions

  • Practice Makes Perfect/Prepared for the Worst - Don't try to search through a 53-card deck for a handful of cards. It doesn't turn out well.
  • Beat Cop/Grete Wagner - These are very powerful effects. However, early on, you're primarily looking at short bursts of combat or guaranteed damage, rather than sustained output. The upgraded versions are worth consideration once things are smoothed out, but the cost is prohibitive early on.
  • Coup de Grâce - Having this as a Fast card makes it rather amusing if you're playing in multiplayer. However, its resource cost and its awkwardness in solo make it less ideal in the general case. If you have support in a larger game, it may be worth consideration.

Upgrade Recommendations

It is important to note that since Forced Learning is in play, Roland, will likely see many of the cards in his deck, but will not be able to tutor them out with any consistency. In addition, his BtB Back means that he will not be able to purchase many of the top tier cards. Instead, it is better to find many small upgrades which will help round out the consistency of the deck.

Important Cards

  • Stick to the Plan - When you're going through a 50-card deck, having access to three pre-determined initial cards is a huge boon, allowing you to easily slot in useful tools for whatever you need. Out of the starting deck, I'd recommend keeping Act of Desperation, Sweeping Kick, and Emergency Cache as a set of options that can grant combat or resources if necessary.
  • Beat Cop (2) - Directive (Due Diligence) and its restriction to two fights means that you'll want to squeeze out as much as you can out of other options. Beat Cop 2 is a great effect, adding both innate as well as allowing you to squeeze out one or two more instances of damage.
  • 1 XP Options - See the above notes regarding 1-XP Cards. All of these remain valuable options to slot in whenever you have the spare wiggle room.

Secondary Upgrades

  • Enchant Weapon - Since you only have two fights to use and one fight may come from an event, the once-per-turn restriction isn't as big of a deal. You can use this to grant some valuable reliability to whichever weapon you choose to use as your primary.
  • Enchanted Blade (3G) - Consistency! Damage! Draw! Horror healing! And it's still within your Guardian deck restrictions! What's not to like?
  • "I've had worse…" (2) - It may use up one of your two card plays, but it grants valuable resources while also helping to soak some of the damage you're taking.
  • Stand Together (3) - If you're playing multiplayer, this has a lot of what you want.
  • Preposterous Sketches (2) - It's still fast, and now it's cheaper. Cheaper is important here.
  • Charisma: Not quite as important as it is on some builds, but still a great consistency option once you start having enough to pay for multiple allies.

Luxury Upgrades

  • Dynamite Blast (2) - Pretend it's Dynamite Blast (3). It's pricey, but if you need more consistent monster combat, this has you covered.
  • Grete Wagner (3) - I find the resource cost on Beat Cop (3) makes it a better option early on, but the upgraded version of Grete gives two important stats, and you may have the wiggle room for inclusion after some of the resource management upgrades.
  • Sleuth - You have some tactics, and there's a bit of recursion involved, so this isn't the worst pick. However, it's not one of the best options, either.
  • Well Prepared - You might not always find it, but Roland's .38 Special remains ridiculous with Well Prepared, and you can still squeeze out a bit of value from many of your other tools.
  • Emergency Cache (2) - A card draw is a card draw.
  • Survival Knife (2) - The two-fight restriction can make this more difficult to deal with, but this is a reasonable option for Enchant Weapon, and can be a good backup option for dealing with Hunters, if they are common.
  • Timeworn Brand - The only level 5 weapon option you have. If you have the XP and cash, this is great. You just won't always have the XP and cash, making it difficult to pick this over the Enchanted Blade (3G)
  • Overpower (2) - Definitely a stretch, but an extra symbol and potential extra draw isn't a bad thing. However, you're less likely to be succeeding by the numbers which would enable it.
  • Burn After Reading/Flare: Only really worth consideration in desperate circumstances or near the end of the campaign, but these are both powerful exile options with low costs, that are only boosted by a fast action.

Thanks

Thanks for looking through all of this! Thoughts and comments are appreciated! This has taken a couple of attempts and adjustments to reach, but I imagine there's plenty of room for improvement, and a deck like this certainly has enough opportunity to add or adjust some card combos, so I'd be happy to hear about any ways this could be improved!

2 comments

Feb 15, 2022 FlarkeFiasco · 1

Awesome deck! I'll be looking to try out the Forced Learning variant, and I think you've done an excellent job to minimize the downsides of Forced Learning, and maximized the upsides. There's one other upside I want to maximize...

So parallel Roland appears to be incentivized to take those weird events, like interrogate, persuasion, as well as handcuffs. Due Diligence gives him bonuses for all of these tests (nice), and handcuffs lets him KEEP the bonuses as he drags the cuffed guy around the rest of the game.

The problem? I'm about to play edge of the earth, blind, so I have no idea how many humanoid enemies are going to be there. Result? Under normal circumstances, it's a risk to take so many potentially bad cards. But Forced Learning allows me to not only have the DECK SPACE to include these one-off cards that help me get rid of enemies when I've already done my two fight actions, but I can simply discard them if I don't see humanoids in this scenario. I'll draw the other card with Forced Learning please ;).

Also, Forced Learning, if you play with the very highly technical interpretation (see card discussion page), you can discard Cover Up from play after the revelation resolves. You may, of course, draw Cover Up with a random incidental card draw somewhere, but I'd you forced learning it, say goodbye to trauma town.

Also, I'd probably be cutting down clue potential with the deck... slightly, as I'm gonna play with an Ursula that plans on secrets + eon chart and getting like 5 investigates a turn, so I'll just hope I can draw safeguard (2) to keep up with her. So my job is enemies, hence the persuasion and handcuffs. The only major downside with the forced learning version of the deck is how important safeguard is, and how there's not a great way to Mulligan for it.

Feb 15, 2022 Ruduen · 905

@FlarkeFiasco Thanks for the response! Yes, there are definitely 'conditional' events like Interrogate, Persuasion, and Handcuffs that are less awkward when you can discard them freely. This build was created with aiming for more flexible/less expensive cards in general - most of the events are pretty cheap, but the Asset costs can quickly add up, so streamlining was more important than tailoring it towards the 'possible' enemies that might show up. (And, of course, you can add some safely, but you still have to be careful about adding too many - there's no helping it if you happen to draw two cards that need discarding in the same turn!)

Still, one advantage of Forced Learning is getting to experiment with such cards, and quickly slot out other cards in their place when the time comes. Feel free to experiment and see what works for your playstyle or your group - this is definitely geared towards a more 'all-around' build, but it's easy to replace some of the events with other events to help shift that focus.

I'm glad you like the looks of this, and hope you have some luck with it!